Mark Reckless: In terms of when we were elected, I suspect the Member may have forgotten Nathan Gill.
Mark Reckless: Will the Member give way?
Mark Reckless: I wonder if the Member noticed the President's remarks today that he didn't expect the NHS to be part of any trade deal.
Mark Reckless: Will the Member give way?
Mark Reckless: Where on earth does that come from? Broadly, in the referendum, the older people were, the higher the proportion for 'leave'. The idea that people who were there at the war voted by 70 per cent to remain—what on earth is your source for that claim?
Mark Reckless: Will the Member give way again?
Mark Reckless: I do actually recall seeing one thing where the amount voting 'leave' was going up as people got older, and among the very, very oldest—and it was a very small sample—the 'leave' vote was very slightly less than it had been for the group a little younger, but it was very strongly to leave.
Mark Reckless: On a point of order, the Member has just said that he lied. That is out of order.
Mark Reckless: [Inaudible.]
Mark Reckless: First Minister, after your near 12-minute exchange with the Plaid Cymru leader, could I try a more succinct question? What do you consider to be the right balance between central control and local autonomy for health bodies in Wales?
Mark Reckless: I had understood that the special measures regime was at least intended to be a shorter or a sharper intervention to turn around a failing body or at least a body in which there were problems. I just wonder, reflecting on the questions we had from the leader of the opposition, whether the First Minister would consider whether the special measures regime that has developed strikes that correct...
Mark Reckless: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. The Minister sets out four priorities, and I just wonder if she could clarify a little the differences between them. We have the workload and well-being charter and toolkit, and then the reducing workload resources and training pack, and then, separately, the training models, I think, coming from the consortium. I wonder if she could just help us understand a little...
Mark Reckless: I do want to support the Government motion, so I hoped I'd be able to make consensual comments, but I do have to say at the beginning that the Minister said that she wants to see promises from the 2016 referendum honoured. Yes, and how about we start by honouring the result of the referendum? She spoke about wanting to see legislation brought in for a referendum on our membership of the...
Mark Reckless: Having said those two initial points, I will seek to return the more consensual approach I had intended. I agree with the Government's motion. I think it's been worded with restraint and, generally, good sense. Point 1(a)—I do note the comparison that even if we accept that figure of £370 million a year, it compares to the amount that we pay over to the European Union. Now, of course, it...
Mark Reckless: We voted to leave, and I'm sorry the Member no longer respects that. I note that his members didn't vote against triggering article 50, yet now try and undo the result. However, what I do think, to develop the point I was making, is that if we see Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Dominic Raab, or certainly if we see Boris Johnson or Michael Gove come in—sorry, not Michael Gove, but Dominic...
Mark Reckless: Good. Well, I wish it well and congratulate Stephen Kinnock on the work he's doing here, and also on the constancy of his position on Brexit. Unlike Members here, he hasn't changed it, and that I do welcome. I encourage the Conservative side as well, I hope, to link in to this APPG, to think where they can influence the debate as it's happening. There is a leadership contest. People are...
Mark Reckless: What about all the extra money that Welsh residents pay in terms of the higher prices for food he mentioned, but also, indeed, for clothing and footwear?
Mark Reckless: 7. Will the Minister make a statement on the Welsh Government's plans to relieve traffic congestion around Newport? OAQ53993
Mark Reckless: You also published a manifesto that said: 'We will deliver a relief road for the M4'. Is it not the case that this commission and any proposals that it comes out with, which may relieve congestion at the margin, will be a very small impact compared to what was promised in your manifesto?
Mark Reckless: The most recent Brexit discussion with the UK Government has of course been around the First Minister's use, or non-use, of a Foreign Office car in Brussels today. However, on the NHS issue, it is not commercially traded. Surely, when something is a public service, it is not something that is part of a trade deal in the way that is suggested. Of course, if you have public procurement, you...
