Angela Burns: Formally.
Angela Burns: Thank you, Presiding Officer. I formally move amendment 35, tabled in my name. Members, I want teeth, not for me but for the NHS, and amendment 35 is tabled in support of committee recommendation 6, which asks the Minister to make a specific provision for the consequences of non-compliance with the duty of quality. I've re-tabled this from Stage 2 because, actually, I think it's vitally...
Angela Burns: Thank you, Llywydd. Failure to comply with the duty to secure quality in health services—you're absolutely right; it does say that 'sections 12A, 20A and 24A, they may make an intervention order in respect of the body.' However, you've made escalation orders across our health boards because of failures in quality of care: Tawel Fan, Cwm Taf to name but two; there are other— smaller,...
Angela Burns: Absolutely. Of course I will.
Angela Burns: I don't think I need to say any more, Llywydd, because I think Helen Mary has absolutely encapsulated my entire feeling on it, which is why we brought this amendment. We've got to up our game. The whole point of this legislation is about us upping our game, and making sure that those who run our health boards, the management teams, really make sure that providing quality care to our NHS...
Angela Burns: Thank you, Presiding Officer. I've been an Assembly Member for about 10 years now, and I've sat on a whole variety of committees—finance, health, education, children and young people, as it was—and all the time we talk about 'How do we know?' How do we know that we're performing well? How do we know that we're meeting our targets? How do we know we're delivering the outcomes for the money...
Angela Burns: Thank you for that. Some of the words that I find the most slippery are words like 'intend' and 'expect', because they don't actually tell you when you're going to do something and how you're going to do it. So, let me just remind Members: in July 2013—we're now in 2020—so, seven years ago, the Welsh Government said it would work to publish—in fact, you didn't just say it, you announced...
Angela Burns: Thank you very much to Plaid Cymru for bringing this forward. This element of the Bill is really important. I have a stand at the moment to abstain, and the reason for this is because I want to hear what the Minister is going to say in response to you. I agree, it is vitally important to create a register of managers. It's vitally important to have sanctions and measurability on it to make...
Angela Burns: Diolch, Llywydd. I formally move the amendments tabled in my name. These amendments consider the Minister's concerns at Stage 2 about the implications of extending safe staffing levels to all clinical staff. This is despite the Chair of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee stating that, in the committee's view, 'it is impossible to separate out the issue of quality from the provision...
Angela Burns: Thank you, Presiding Officer. All I will say is I totally disagree with the Minister. As I outlined, there's so much that's going on in the NHS, there are so many advances, there are so many changes in the patient profile, we need our standards to be operated on a very, very regular basis. And, once again, I will remind everyone that we're always talking about listening to the clinicians,...
Angela Burns: Formally, Llywydd.
Angela Burns: Diolch, Llywydd. I'd like to formally move amendment 39, tabled in my name. This amendment, 39, is in line with recommendation 9 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee at Stage 1, which recommended that the Minister makes specific provision for the consequences of non-compliance with the duty of candour—with the duty of honesty, integrity, truth. This was tabled by the previous...
Angela Burns: I honestly don't think I could disagree with you more, actually, Minister. Many years ago, I worked for a very wise business leader who said that he would never sack me for making a mistake, but he would sack me for failing to own it; and this is what we have here. Just let me remind you where we're at, because these are the last amendments to this Bill that are about the duty of quality and...
Angela Burns: Thank you, Presiding Officer. What a surprise. I mean, let's be honest, we've now come to the heart of this bit of legislation in terms of the citizen voice body. Our current community health councils are extraordinary organisations. Some of them are absolutely outstanding in the work that they do. Some of them have gone out there and uncovered real problems, brought them to light, had them...
Angela Burns: I'd just like to make the point that the Welsh Conservatives have argued for a very long time that all of our commissioners should be appointed by the National Assembly for Wales.
Angela Burns: Formally, Llywydd.
Angela Burns: Formally, Llywydd.
Angela Burns: Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I'd like to formally move amendment 55 concerning indemnity cover. It is an absolute ambition, which I rightly support, that Welsh Government should increase the number of volunteers who sign up to support and to run and be part of the citizen voice body. However, we must also be prepared to protect them. Unnecessary involvement in court cases would...
Angela Burns: I just have a real problem with your rejection of this amendment, Minister. What we're asking is we are asking volunteers, people who may have some experience of dealing with large organisations, to come and volunteer for the citizen voice body, and to speak on behalf of the citizens they represent. If you were to boil it down into a different way of saying it, they are speaking truth to...
Angela Burns: Diolch, Llywydd. I formally move amendments 57 and 58, tabled in my name. This is about the duty to ensure sufficient resources, and the amendments seek to request that Welsh Ministers should ensure that those sufficient resources for the citizen voice body are put in place. These amendments have been brought forward from Stage 2, as while the Minister outlined that they're putting in...
