Suzy Davies: Yes, please, to finish this off.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: I move.
Suzy Davies: Diolch, Llywydd, and thank you to everyone who's participated in this debate. It's a full debate and quite a complicated one, as we discussed earlier. Can I just begin by agreeing with Siân Gwenllian, and, in fact, the Minister, that we need our children growing up to not only respect but to understand all kinds of faiths. Part of the purpose of this Bill in the first place is to raise...
Suzy Davies: But my personal confidence in voluntary aided schools being able to make sensible decisions I don't think is enough. What 'having regard' doesn't do is give voluntary aided schools any steer on how to balance that duty to have regard with their relationship with their own deeds and tenets. And we need to bear in mind that it is hard to argue that you've given regard to the agreed syllabus if...
Suzy Davies: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd, and I move amendment 13 and ask that Members bear with me on this. I appreciate it's getting late. Again, this group contains amendments that arise from issues of conscience, and Welsh Conservatives will have a free vote on those. However, we agree with the assertion that, should the Government view prevail, and that voluntary aided schools still find themselves in...
Suzy Davies: Moved.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: Yes, please.
Suzy Davies: Diolch yn fawr. Thank you, Minister, for coming back to some of these points. I appreciate that your position won't particularly have changed from Stage 2 on the opportunities for a small number of schools, perhaps, to delay the implementation of the curriculum, and I do understand the arguments that you're putting forward as to why, perhaps, this amendment, you wouldn't be prepared to...
Suzy Davies: Diolch, Llywydd. I move amendment 5. Minister, the thrust of these amendments will be familiar to you from Stage 2, but we have tweaked them a little bit to see if we can make progress here. Amendments 5 and 7 are to be read together, and allow schools to be able to delay the implementation of the curriculum by up to a year, provided that—and it is a big proviso—no pupil is disadvantaged...
Suzy Davies: Yes, formally.
Suzy Davies: No, it's not moved.
Suzy Davies: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd, and thank you to everyone who's taken part in this debate. I hope Members won't mind if I just take this chance to give a really big shout out to the Children, Young People and Education Committee at this time—to Lynne and to the witnesses who came before us with evidence from all different points of view and, of course, to the committee staff, because I cannot...
Suzy Davies: Okay, diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd, I'm just recovering myself a little bit here. Yes, I move amendment 2, which is the lead amendment in this group. Now, our group has always offered a free vote on matters of conscience and I'll be exercising mine on the basis of conscience too. Mine is governed by the principle that we all have a responsibility to keep our children and young people safe, and I'll...
Suzy Davies: Dirprwy Lywydd, sorry about this, but may I ask if the Senedd would be prepared not to vote on this particular—?
Suzy Davies: Yes, please. I know I've moved it, but I'd like to withdraw it. Thank you.
