5. 5. Debate by Individual Members under Standing Order 11.21(iv): the European Union

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:58 pm on 15 June 2016.

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Photo of Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas Plaid Cymru 3:58, 15 June 2016

Dawn Bowden emphasised the basic issue here of workers’ rights and standards, and I was very pleased to hear that argument. Then we came to Mark Reckless, who gave us edited highlights from his biography. I’ve always regarded autobiography as a work of fiction, so we’ll leave it there. Jenny Rathbone emphasised the importance of the environmental contribution, in terms of air quality, clean beaches and, of course, mine waste safety.

Yna, fy nghyfaill David Melding. Mae David Melding wedi arwain yn glir ar y cwestiwn Ewropeaidd ar hyd y blynyddoedd. Fe wnes i gamgymeriad yn y refferendwm cyntaf. Er gwaethaf ymgais Dafydd Wigley ac eraill i’m mherswadio i, fe bleidleisiais i yn erbyn aros i mewn yn 1975, ac rwyf wedi difaru bob dydd ers hynny. Mae David, yn hollol iawn, yn dadlau mai prosiect Ceidwadol Prydeinig yw’r farchnad sengl, a bod cyfraniad Llywodraeth Thatcher i hynny wedi bod yn gyfraniad sylweddol.

David Rowlands also gave us a lecture on the constitutional position of Wales. I’m afraid I do see this slightly differently, because I was sitting in the Chair there for a period and spent a lot of time discussing with European regions. Europe is a Europe of the regions, and it will continue to be a Europe of the regions, wherever Wales decides to place itself. And, in the Committee of the Regions, we have been represented very ably by my close friend here, Mick Antoniw, who was able to speak from personal experience during the crisis in Ukraine.

And, finally, I come to Hefin David’s contribution, where he mentioned the anti-EU feeling that is about in Wales. And, you know, if we lose this one, we’ve lost it, it’s the political class in Wales that lost it, because we haven’t made the argument strongly enough and have not particularly made the argument that Mark Drakeford, our Minister, ended with—the argument for multiple identity.

Yn yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, y mae’r Gymraeg yn iaith gyd-swyddogol. Nid yw’n gyd-swyddogol yn San Steffan. Dyna ddigon o ddadl i mi i aros yn Ewrop am byth.