Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:50 pm on 21 June 2016.
Again, I am pleased to welcome you back to a role, Minister—or Secretary—that I know that you care passionately about. Passion does play a part, of course, on both sides of this debate. I would like to point you in the direction of a passion to do something positive about this, and I’d like, here, to commend the work of Coedcae school in Llanelli, from where the pupils came here and they actually delivered their action plan and their understanding in their White Ribbon campaign two years ago. They put together a play—that is, the pupils put together a play where they had starring roles within that play and they discussed all consequences concerning all aspects of domestic abuse and violence within the home. The then education Minister, Huw Lewis, came along to the school, and I’m inviting you, Minister, and hoping that you will take that opportunity to come along as well, because it is a real example of peer-led group work within a school and is most definitely a model of best practice.
On the other hand, I conducted a survey of students two years ago, and I asked a very few basic questions about, ‘Have you ever seen or have you ever witnessed, and how do you feel about different levels of violence?’ I was absolutely astounded and disappointed when 50 per cent of those who replied said they had, and 50 per cent—and it didn’t really matter whether they were male or female—thought that it was quite acceptable for a male to hit his girlfriend or his partner by just giving her a slap. Those were the replies I received. So, when we say that we need to look at and legislate, that is correct, but what we absolutely have to do—and this is where I wholeheartedly support the work with young people and children—is change attitudes. Because there’s a direct need for attitudinal change that came out of my survey, and it absolutely staggered me.
Of course, what we’re really talking about when we’re talking about changing hearts and minds—we’re talking about the respect agenda, that people actually respect each other, whatever age they are, whatever gender they are. And that brings me neatly on to, I think, probably an area that doesn’t get an awful lot of airing. That is the area of same-sex relationships. It is a wonderful thing now that people can openly have same-sex relationships without any fear of retribution from the wider society, but I’m not so convinced that those same couples find the same freedom to come forward and express, and whether people are actually trained to help those couples, when they’re experiencing domestic abuse.
Finally, I’d like to know, Minister, what you’re going to do about monitoring progress. It is fantastic that we’re world leaders in this field, but we need to monitor the progress to make sure that what we’re trying to lead on actually gets delivered. It’s fantastic that we’ve got champions being placed here, there and everywhere, but what exactly is it that they’re doing? Will we know what it is that they’re doing, and who are they accountable to, and what is it that they are actually accountable for?
Also, I heard the account just now about 70 per cent reductions by one authority in their budget given to Women’s Aid. I think that’s disgraceful. That’s a political decision, and they need to take that into account within their own local authority. But the housing Bill actually does allow to free up some of those places. Again, on the same thing about monitoring progress, have you looked at whether any of the housing associations or local authorities are taking forward the provision that they now have within the housing Bill that actually tells them that they can, where it is safe to do, move the perpetrator, not the victim?