Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:42 pm on 28 June 2016.
Certainly, I would have welcomed a much higher registration of young people and a much higher percentage vote. I certainly accept that, but I want to draw attention to the feeling of the young people who weren’t able to vote, and who did vote and who wanted to express their frustration about the result of the referendum. And, as I say, they were calling for votes for 16 and 17-year-olds, and I know that’s something that this Assembly may be able to address in the future when the Wales Bill goes through. But, their other call was for a second referendum. I believe that we do have to respect the views that have been shown by the people of Wales but that the Welsh Government should do all it possibly can to find ways to enable Wales to continue to have as many of the benefits of being in the EU as we possibly can because Wales has had huge benefits from the EU.
We also have to accept that, as has already been said this afternoon, it was actually a close vote in Wales. Cardiff, of course, the capital, voted 60-40 to remain, and this vote was reflected all over the UK. Basically, many of the larger cities did vote to remain, including London, Bristol and Edinburgh. The figures in Wales were 52.5 per cent to leave and 47.5 per cent to remain, and I do consider that a close vote. But, it’s interesting and, compared with other parts of the UK where there’s a similar sort of demography and also a small middle class, such as the north-east of England, 58 per cent voted to leave, and in the west midlands, it was 59.3 per cent to leave. In Wales, it was a close result, and, of course, Nigel Farage himself said in the expectation of a narrow majority for ‘in’ that there would be a case for a second referendum. So, I think the result is not a very definite result. I think it is a narrow margin of victory for ‘leave’ and I think the it would be the right thing to do to use any opportunity to check that this is really what the people of Wales wanted, when you consider the benefits that Wales has had from EU funding, especially when many of the things that were said to persuade people to vote have consequently turned out to be made of dust. Also, the point has already been made about the breakup of the UK, which is likely, with Scotland preparing for legislation for a second independence vote. Surely, if that does happen, if that proposal is there, Wales does need to have a chance to have its say on that.
I’m very pleased that the First Minister has said that, after the terms of exit are agreed, he will be seeking the opportunity for Wales and the other countries of the UK to give their view. Again, I think, at that point, there would be the opportunity to seek the views of the people as well as the views of the Members of this house.
So, lastly, I think we must try to continue—to think that Wales can continue its links with the rest of Europe, and we’ll have to make very definite, very positive efforts to do that. Things like Cardiff being a member of the EUROCITIES network, for example; that is a way that we can continue to reach out and benefit from funding for that particular network. Thank you.