2. 2. Debate: The Outcome of the EU Referendum

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:17 pm on 28 June 2016.

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Photo of Jeremy Miles Jeremy Miles Labour 3:17, 28 June 2016

Thank you for that intervention. I do take the point that there’s been very unhelpful comment in some of the press about the response of our communities. I don’t take the other point that you raised, but I take that point, certainly.

In fact, promises have been made in this campaign, and they’ve been mentioned again today on many occasions, and in my view, what the people of Wales voted for last week was, yes, to come out of the EU, but also for the funding that Wales currently receives from the EU to be made good by the British Government. The Brexit decision for us in Wales means both these things together, and how we respond to that decision in this place is critical. I don’t, myself, detect in the result any public yearning at the moment for a devolution settlement much broader than that which we are already discussing, though it remains to be seen whether that continues to be the case as the future of the United Kingdom unfolds. But I do believe that people voting to leave the EU did so in the firm belief that the projects, the infrastructure, the skills programmes, and so on that form an essential part of their communities would in some form continue. And so, we must respond to that in a tangible way. I believe now is the time to settle the question of how Wales is funded from Westminster and to put it on a firm footing. A new funding commitment must reflect the different needs of the people of Wales, and it must reflect, in full, the loss of European funding. HM Treasury, we are led to believe, will now make a significant saving every year, while the Welsh treasury must receive its fair share of that. Promises have been made, and now is the time for them to be kept.

So, I believe we need to include within the statutory architecture of an emerging Welsh constitution a guarantee in law of funding. It must describe the high-level principles underpinning a fair funding formula. The former First Minister, Rhodri Morgan, has referred to equality and redistribution as the guiding principles in this respect, and he must also describe how disputes over that funding would be resolved.

I don’t believe the Welsh public will thank us if we respond to their verdict—which is, I believe, in part about the relevance of political life to their lives—by extensive debate about the form and powers of Westminster and Cardiff Bay. If we’ve been told anything by people across Wales, it’s that we need to do more to deal with the bread-and-butter issues, the daily struggles that our communities face. But, equally, we will not be forgiven if we fail to deliver, as a result of this vote, a settlement for Wales that addresses, not just the question of our formal relationship with the European Union, but also a fair and secure foundation for the future funding of Wales.