I agree with the Member, undoubtedly, that public services should not be run for private profit. That is why, in this Government, we have always believed that public services should be publicly funded and publicly delivered. Now, in very tough times, I understand that those responsible for providing services sometimes have to look for other ways in which their services can be provided. Then, not-for-profit distributing mutual models can sometimes provide an alternative, but that alternative is to be pursued only at the point when the preferred model of a publicly provided, publicly delivered, publicly funded way of doing things is no longer able to be sustained.