Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:16 pm on 5 July 2016.
Like everybody else, I welcome this debate, although I wonder, amongst the public at large, whether they might regard it as a bit of kind of pretentious navel-gazing and they’re not too bothered about what we call ourselves—as far as I can tell, they’re highly critical of what we do in this place. But, several of us, of course, have been Members of Parliament in another place, and I personally welcome the fact that we now have the chance of creating a real parliament there, instead of the one that we’ve had for the last 40 years. But, as and when the Wales Bill passes and tax-raising powers are devolved to this institution, there is, of course, a serious argument for calling ourselves a parliament, because taxation and representation have traditionally gone together in the minds of people who support democracy.
I’m personally rather attracted by the idea of the ‘Senedd’ as a name, and I enjoy being an ‘Aelod o’r Senedd’, and I wonder whether that would make us senators, ultimately, and how that could be regarded amongst the public at large. As Bethan Jenkins pointed out, the origin of this goes back to ancient Rome, and it meant, of course, that if you were an old person, you were regarded as automatically wise, and this is a theory that I’ve grown to approve of—the older I get, the wiser I think I must have become. But I wasn’t impressed by her argument in relation to the Assembly because it’s called that in Cuba and in France. Those are not my role models in either case.
But we welcome, in our party—and we will have a free vote on this as well—a national debate on this topic, and I’m sure that, following the referendum, there will be an equal amount of public interest in our exercise of what we’re going to call ourselves. So, we certainly have no objection to the Presiding Officer and the Assembly Commission considering the implications of this change and, indeed, consulting as widely as possible, and then we’ll come back and debate the issue in a real sense.