7. 7. Plaid Cymru Debate: UK Withdrawal from the European Union

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:56 pm on 13 July 2016.

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Photo of Mr Simon Thomas Mr Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru 4:56, 13 July 2016

(Translated)

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I just want to endorse the comments made by Leanne Wood in opening this debate by mentioning particularly the effect on, and the need to protect, agriculture, fisheries and the environment more generally.

We are in a position at present where Wales, Welsh farmers and rural Wales receive something in the region of £250 million per annum in direct payments to farmers, and, in addition to that, there is some €655 million—the value of the euro, of course, does mean that the pounds are less at the moment—for the rural development programme within the common agricultural policy for the period up to 2020. Of course, if the new Prime Minister does want to implement Brexit in the way that she has suggested, then Wales, along with the rest of the UK, will leave that subsidy system before the end of that period. Therefore, it is important that we do take action post haste in order to understand the impact of this on our agriculture and our environmental sectors and make preparations for it.

Within the European Union, as we have been members for so long, the framework for animal welfare, animal health, and also the framework for environmental policy and legislation have all been made within the EU. Although we have almost universally—certainly in the Assembly, I think—been supportive of that legislation, it stems from Europe, and that’s the basis on which we have legislated. Therefore, it’s very important that the pledges on maintaining direct subsidies at the current level are kept. It’s important that that happens in the context of the fact that there is a great deal of uncertainty within the market at the moment, and, of course, uncertainty undermines the market.

Something in the region of 80 per cent to 90 per cent of farm income in Wales is derived from direct payments. Now, perhaps that isn’t a situation that one would want to see in the long term in any case, but the fact is that we have to move from that situation in just two years now, and that is a far swifter process than we had anticipated. The prices for Welsh produce are very low, although there has been some improvement in the dairy sector.

So, it is true to say that withdrawing from the European Union does mean that we can draw up policies for agricultural support, food production support, and fisheries and environmental support anew. That’s true, but Plaid Cymru is of the view that we shouldn’t give up, in any way, on the progress that has been made, particularly in the areas of agriculture and the environment, over the past 40 years. So, we want to ensure that the transfer happens and ensures that the current agricultural support and legislation continue without any break.

Rwy’n credu ei bod yn bwysig tanlinellu hefyd fod y cymorth, a’r gefnogaeth barhaus, i amaethyddiaeth Cymru wedi ei gadarnhau cynifer o weithiau yn ystod y refferendwm blaenorol hwn. Er enghraifft, dywedodd David Davies AS wrth BBC Radio Wales fod yn rhaid i ni yn gyntaf oll sicrhau bod yr arian a oedd yn mynd i mewn i gronfeydd strwythurol a’r PAC yn parhau.

Dywedodd George Eustice, sef Gweinidog ffermio y DU ond un a oedd yn ymgyrchu dros adael, y byddai Cymru yn cael ‘llawn cymaint o gymorth’ ag yr oeddem yn ei gael ar y pryd, a dywedodd, pe baem yn gadael—ac fe wnaethom, wrth gwrs—y gallai hyn olygu mwy o arian a gwell cefnogaeth i ffermwyr Cymru:

os ydym yn pleidleisio dros adael... bydd Llywodraeth y DU yn parhau i roi o leiaf cymaint i ffermwyr Cymru a’r amgylchedd... ag y maent yn ei gael yn awr.

Dyna oedd addewid y Llywodraeth gyfredol sy’n parhau. Dywedodd arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr—y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig—mewn ymateb i’r dyfyniad penodol hwnnw:

Erbyn hyn mae gennym warant gadarn y byddai ffermwyr Cymru yn parhau i gael o leiaf yr un faint o ran cymorth.

Felly, addewid gan Lywodraeth y DU, ‘gwarant gadarn’ gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, ac mae’n rhaid i ni sicrhau nad oes dim yn cael ei naddu, pan fydd y DU yn gadael yr UE, oddi ar y cymorth y bydd ffermwyr yn ei gael ac y bydd ein hamgylchedd yn ei gael a’r cymorth y bydd ein cymunedau gwledig yn ei gael. Dyna pam ei bod mor drist gweld bod Ian Lucas, cydweithiwr Llafur y Gweinidog sy’n gyfrifol am yr amgylchedd yn y lle hwn, wedi gofyn heddiw yn Nhŷ’r Cyffredin i’r Gweinidog Gwladol yn Swyddfa Cymru, Guto Bebb—gofynnodd:

A yw’r Gweinidog yn cytuno bod gadael yr UE yn cynnig cyfle euraidd i asesu lefel y cymhorthdal ​​a delir i ffermio yng Nghymru i weld a oes modd gwario’r arian yn fwy effeithiol ac effeithlon mewn meysydd eraill?

Felly, mae’r Blaid Lafur yn San Steffan—pa Blaid Lafur, nid wyf yn gwybod gan fod cymaint ohonynt y dyddiau hyn—mae’r Blaid Lafur yn San Steffan yn fwriadol, eisoes, yn cwestiynu a defnyddio gadael yr UE fel cyfle i dorri cymorth i ffermwyr Cymru. Rwy’n credu bod hynny’n warthus ac rwy’n gobeithio y bydd y Gweinidog, wrth ymateb i’r ddadl hon, yn datgysylltu ei hun oddi wrth y sylwadau hynny.