3. Urgent Question: Abertawe Bro Morgannwg, Cardiff and Vale and Hywel Dda Local Health Boards

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:45 pm on 13 September 2016.

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Photo of Angela Burns Angela Burns Conservative 2:45, 13 September 2016

Minister, I’m very grateful for your statement, and I’m very pleased, actually, to see you’ve taken this action, because I think it is time that we supported our health boards more thoroughly. Although, Minister, I do have to say that I lay it entirely at the feet of your Government, your predecessors, that they allowed the health boards to get into this state.

I’d like to just talk across the whole piece. I notice from your brief statement that you’re still looking to have IMTPs signed off. Will they still be a three-year IMTP after the one year of support? I’d like to ask about all three, if I may, in terms of: is it all about the money for all three health boards? Is some of it about standards? Is some of it about waiting times? Because I think there’s a slight difficulty in reading through the reasons for each of those health boards for going into targeted intervention. Could you just very quickly outline for us what ‘targeted intervention’ actually means? Is this more like a ministerial advisory board that somebody will go to, there’ll be a group of people, and they will help the senior management team to get to IMTP status? Or is it far more hands off than that?

I do have to just make the point that the ambulance trust has, I’m glad to say, gone out into more routine arrangements, but, let us be clear, there was a significant change of targets, so I’m not surprised that they managed to meet some of them.

Finally, Minister, to have four out of our eight major health boards in some kind of intervention or special measures is a blow for the public and a blow for the morale of the staff that work in these organisations. So, what guidance have you given these health boards as to how they can handle their staff and their staff expectation? Nobody likes to think that they might be working for a failing organisation. I think there has to be real clarity about what this is all about and that this is more of a support than saying that these organisations—or I hope you’re going to be telling me that this is more about support rather than saying that these organisations are actually heading substantially downhill, because the morale out there for patients and staff will be hit by this. I think that it is incumbent upon you to try to pick it up. I’d like to understand how you’re going to be able to do that so that we can reassure the public that accessing those four health boards is still safe, timely and that they will get the services that they require when they require them.