Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:59 pm on 13 September 2016.
I welcome the statement and I welcome even more the First Minister’s answers, which I thought were very thoughtful, to the leader of the opposition, in particular his indication that it’s a free trade model that offers the best scope for Wales’s prosperity in the future. I also welcome his statement that the result of the referendum cannot and should not be ignored, which I infer means that there’s no going back on the referendum result, which marks him out, at any rate, from the leader of Plaid Cymru, who has been talking about having a rerun of this, and, indeed, a putative leader of his own party, in the form of Owen Smith, who is constantly talking about rerunning the referendum. So, I hope that he’s going to vote for the right man in the leadership contest in the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, who we all in my party support to the hilt, because he at any rate—. [Interruption.] He at any rate has accepted that the result of the referendum is binding.
I agree also with the First Minister when he says that we will do everything we can to build confidence in Wales, but I’m afraid the jeremiads that we hear all too often from the First Minister, such as the way in which his speech in Chicago was reported, don’t actually do anything to help build confidence in Wales. As Mark Isherwood was saying, when you’re a salesman you go out there and sell your product—you don’t talk it down or talk up the difficulties. Yes, of course there are challenges in Brexit—life is full of uncertainties whether we stay inside the EU or whether we’re outside it—but there are also opportunities. Why not focus on the opportunities as well? There is so much European legislation that we’re obliged to implement and adhere to, like the renewables directive, the landfill directive, on business rates and state aid regulations, and so on. We have so much more flexibility outside the EU to reduce business costs and reduce the impediments that there are to wealth creation within Wales. So, why not talk about the opportunities rather more and the challenges rather less?
As regards the EU advisory group, the First Minister ended on a high note in his statement, where he says
‘the issues raised go far beyond the interests of any particular government and any particular political party.’
He’s absolutely right in that. And it’s surprising, therefore, that although he’s come to some cosy little deal with Plaid Cymru to give them favoured access to this particular market in ideas, the leader of the Conservative party and myself who actually believe in the outcome that the Welsh people voted for in this referendum, of course have been excluded. I don’t say this out of any desire on my part to add further committee burdens to my life, but it is vitally important that this EU advisory group does have within it people who are effective advocates for the outcome that the people of Wales voted for, and want to make the best of the opportunities that are available to us. So, I would like to say, and I’m sure I speak for Andrew Davies as well, that we place ourselves at the First Minister’s disposal, in this respect if no other.
As regards the various models—