He’s now saying he doesn’t want interference from Brussels, but that there should be interference from London. I mean, where does that leave Welsh farmers? The reality is that we have an entirely different system of payment and a different computer system. Trying to bring four systems together—good luck with that one. We, for a long time, have said that we will tailor our policies for the good of Welsh farmers. What we need is the guarantee of the money—that money that was coming to Welsh farmers from Europe: £260 million of farming subsidies. He said, and his party said, not a penny of that would be lost. If we have that money, we could implement a farming policy that commands the support of those who live in the Welsh countryside, rather than trying to use this as an excuse to take powers away from the elected body of the people of Wales. I say now to him and to others in this Chamber: if this is going to be used as an excuse to centralise power in the UK away from the people of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, he will find strong opposition in this Chamber and outside it.