I think the Member raises a very interesting point. And the Member will be aware of her colleagues in Government too promoting and spending some of the European funding across Wales in many years previously.

The issue for me, which is the important point I think the Member was getting to, was the issue around that we shouldn’t scare people about what’s going to happen—we should be offering them hope and opportunity. And what I’m trying to do within this department, around two themes where I’m pushing very hard—. One is about economic resilience for a community, and the other one is about well-being—the community well-being, individual or the broader community. If we can get those two things right, I think we can start to lift people out of poverty. And I met with one of the foundations this morning, the Bevan Foundation, just to talk about some of those issues that we have in mind in terms of changing our poverty strategy as we move forward.