Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:59 pm on 14 September 2016.
There’s more than one sort of evidence, Dirprwy Lywydd, and evidence of what people say to you directly when you’re in conversations with them is not to be dismissed. On the doorstep, when I am trying to persuade people to vote for Wales’s future to be in Europe, then I can assure you that issues of immigration and free movement were very, very regularly and very prominently reported to me—[Interruption.] All I am saying, and all the First Minister said, is that we would be foolish to brush that aside as though it didn’t matter at all and we can push ahead without attending to them.