<p>Library Services</p>

1. 1. Questions to the First Minister – in the Senedd on 20 September 2016.

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Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour

(Translated)

4. Will the First Minister make a statement on Welsh Government support for library services in Wales? OAQ(5)0141(FM)

Photo of Carwyn Jones Carwyn Jones Labour 1:59, 20 September 2016

Yes. We’re committed to supporting public libraries as we recognise the vital contribution they make to the well-being of people in Wales. Since 2007, we’ve invested some £14 million to modernise over 100 community libraries, including £1 million to modernise and co-locate six libraries in the course of this financial year.

Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour 2:00, 20 September 2016

Welsh Government support for libraries is welcomed, particularly in Caerphilly. We’ve seen the development of libraries in Caerphilly and Bargoed, and Ystrad Mynach is currently undergoing a lot of work. I was interested, also, in the Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Infrastructure’s evidence to the communication committee last week, in which he said libraries are more than just about books, they’re about a whole load of technological provisions for residents.

I wanted to ask, particularly, for an update on the Welsh Government’s plans for an all-Wales library card, which were first published a year ago. I was contacted by a constituent who has a holiday home in Burry Port—a fine place in Lee Waters’s constituency—and wanted to use the library there. He was not permitted to join the library and wasn’t permitted to use his Caerphilly county borough council card there either. I’ve written to Carmarthenshire County Council to try and clarify what’s going on, but particularly, I’d like to know, with the library card scheme, whether that would help. I understand it would also lead to quite a substantial saving for local authorities.

Photo of Carwyn Jones Carwyn Jones Labour 2:01, 20 September 2016

These are issues that are still being considered by the Minister. Of course, it happens digitally already, in terms of digital lending, where many, many local authorities participate in the one central resource, but the work is still being looked at to see whether an all-Wales library card to borrow physically would be workable. I suppose from the local authority’s point of view, they would be concerned, if they were a temporary resident, about whether that person could be traced if the book wasn’t going to come back. These aren’t insurmountable issues, but certainly these are issues that I know are still being examined in terms of seeing whether they’re still practical.

Photo of Darren Millar Darren Millar Conservative

First Minister, will you join me in congratulating the Friends of Kinmel Bay Community Library, who established a charity in order to take over the operation of the library in Kinmel Bay after it was threatened with closure by Conwy County Borough Council? Do you accept that there is a challenge for rural local authorities in particular being able to provide sufficient access to library services simply because of the additional cost that rural local authorities face in delivering public services? What action are you taking as a Government to look at the funding formula to make sure that it’s sufficient to resource local authorities like Conwy and Denbighshire, to ensure that they can continue to provide library services in other communities that might be affected in the same way that Kinmel Bay has been, in the future?

Photo of Carwyn Jones Carwyn Jones Labour 2:02, 20 September 2016

Of course, the local government funding formula has been agreed with the Welsh Local Government Association; there are no plans, currently, to instigate a widespread review of that formula, because inevitably, there will be winners and losers.

Photo of Caroline Jones Caroline Jones UKIP

First Minister, while we welcome your reaffirmation of the Welsh Government’s commitment to library services, your support is of little comfort to those communities who have had their libraries closed as a result of local government cuts. We have seen many libraries close their doors for good, while others owe their existence to a small team of dedicated volunteers. So, what is the Welsh Government doing to ensure that every community in Wales has access to a good local library?

Photo of Carwyn Jones Carwyn Jones Labour 2:03, 20 September 2016

Well, I think I answered that question in terms of what we’ve done to help 100 community libraries. She will be aware of at least two new libraries that have opened in the area where we both live—in Bridgend and in Pyle. They’re relatively new facilities that have opened in the past few years, which the local communities are very proud of. They are examples of libraries that have been refurbished or rebuilt across the whole of Wales.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour

Following on from that, First Minister, clearly, the councils are facing difficulties because of Westminster austerity cuts being passed down to them; they are looking at the services to provide and community libraries are one of the ways in which it’s happening. You, yourself, have visited Briton Ferry library and have seen the work being done by the community there—Taibach and Cymmer are similar in my constituency. But, they always face difficult times when they start off trying to become a community library. What can the Welsh Government do to support those community groups that are trying to take over the libraries to provide a service, particularly, as has been highlighted, the IT elements, for both adults and children, which are vital to those communities?

Photo of Carwyn Jones Carwyn Jones Labour 2:04, 20 September 2016

Absolutely, and we would seek to point them towards others who have run libraries successfully, and help in terms of working with third sector organisations and the advice that they can give. We’ve seen many, many groups—it’s been mentioned twice now in the Chamber—that have taken over libraries, have taken our advice and are making those libraries a success.