Well, it neatly reinforces the fact that we face workforce challenges in a variety of different areas within healthcare professions. And there’s been no attempt to hide from that. In fact, we want to positively be proactive and go out and say, ‘Who do we need within the primary care team?’ That’s why I talk about other professionals. It’s why I’m really pleased to hear that we’re not just having this conversation with the currency of doctors being the only currency that matters within the health service. And, in the way that we then plan our workforce and what we need within the workforce, we need to take account of that full range of professionals.

I expect, though, that you’ll see that, in some of these, the challenges that we face are not localised; they’re part of a national picture. And, this is also why primary care clusters actually being able to understand how they manage the healthcare needs of their local population is really important. The money they’ve been given to spend as they choose is actually about understanding how they will, with their particular knowledge of the people they serve, actually address some of the different challenges and gaps they face.

But, in every single sphere of workforce planning, at health board level and at national level, there will be some challenges that will be more difficult than others, and I’d be more than happy to have a more detailed conversation with him about where we are on this particular field of specialist nurses, because I do recognise that he does have a particular interest.