Well, first of all, mindfulness was mentioned in the Welsh Labour manifesto as something that could be looked at. When we talk about the health of a child up to seven years old, that must include all types of health, including mental health as well. That is something that will be taken into consideration when developing the programme.

The second point is this: she’s right, we do see instances where young people do find themselves under a great deal of stress. Cyber bullying is one area, particularly, that she and I didn’t have to cope with that is something that is a real issue, and the education programme in schools to deal with that is important. The fact there are counsellors in the secondary schools—that’s important in order to help young people and, of course, ultimately, making sure the resources are there for CAMHS. The resources have been put in and I fully expect the waiting times and the numbers to go down as those resources work through the system.