Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:31 pm on 27 September 2016.
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I’d like to thank all Members who’ve taken part in the debate this afternoon, especially those Members who had kind and generous words to say.
Can I say, following on directly from what Rhun ap Iorwerth had to say, I think he’s absolutely right in the approach that this place has to take to our responsibilities and to some of those new responsibilities—the points that were made by both Suzy Davies and Neil Hamilton—in terms of addressing the responsibility of creating accountability? It is a very different and a very new way of working, and it is a fantastic opportunity for this place to make that difference. I’m very pleased to see Bethan Jenkins as Chair of the committee and I know that she will seek to ensure that the BBC and others are held to account. Suzy Davies has fears that the BBC may refuse to answer questions. Well, I wouldn’t like to be that BBC representative sitting in front of a committee refusing to answer questions, and perhaps that would speak more than the actual answers that they may well give.
This is about how we change, as Lee Waters said, the culture within the BBC. I agree very much with the analysis from my friend from Llanelli, in that there is a metropolitan culture within the BBC that believes that it knows best for the whole of the United Kingdom. That is not right, it is not fair, and it must change. How do we make a change is a question for all of us. Because it is through accountability, through debate and discussion, that we can help the BBC make those changes. I want to see an exciting and vibrant public service broadcasting environment across the United Kingdom—one that represents all of us, wherever we happen to live, whether it’s Tredegar or Llangefni or elsewhere. I want to ensure that we and our lives are portrayed on all of the services of the BBC. We could not imagine seven days of broadcasting from the BBC without England on our screens. How did they cope with seven years without Wales? It is not right, it is improper, it has occurred, and it must not happen again—and it must not happen again because we have the processes and the means of accountability in place. The accountability that was in place that enabled those failures to take place has clearly failed. The structure of governance failed, the structure of management failed, and the structure of accountability failed. It must not fail again. It is partly our responsibility here in this Chamber, in this parliament, to ensure that it doesn’t fail again.
The public purpose has been strengthened in terms of the new charter. I believe that committee reports will have significant impact if those committee reports are based on the evidence that it has taken. But it is important, and this is a challenge to all of us across the whole of the democratic institutions of the United Kingdom, but also to the BBC. I absolutely agree with the points that were made by Lee Waters. It is for too long we’ve had promises from the BBC. For too long have we been invited to receptions with BBC senior management where warm words have been offered. What we want to see now is action, and we want to see results and we want to see changes. And it is right and proper that that starts with the £30 million investment that has been described already this afternoon. The funding issues that protect S4C, as was pointed out by Neil Hamilton in this debate, are absolutely essential to its independence and ones that we will certainly be continuing to address, both of in terms of the mid-term review of the charter but also the review of S4C. And I hope that, by making these changes in the structures of accountability, by bringing more people into the structures of accountability, then we will change the culture within the BBC, which will mean that the product we see on our screens here and the different services available will themselves be changed in the future. That is a challenge to each and every one of us, and I believe that this place and our institutions are up to that challenge. Thank you very much.