Can I thank Eluned Morgan for a most enlightening and challenging debate? I wholeheartedly support the idea of a national care service. We’re having to deal with the proceeds of success—the success of our health service—but how are we going to deal with that? In 1950, King George VI signed 250 cards for people who were 100. By 1990, Queen Elizabeth had to sign 2,500 cards for centenarians, and two years ago Queen Elizabeth had to sign 13,000 cards for centenarians. So, how are we going to deal with that level of success?

Before the NHS came along, the health service was fragmented between the private sector, charitable organisations and local authorities, and we’re in that situation now with care. Care needs to have the parity of esteem with health, and I believe that we should be challenged to form a national care service because at the moment care is fragmented between the private sector, the charitable sector and local authorities. It needs to be brought together, and let’s have a sensible debate about the way forward. Diolch yn fawr, Eluned.