11. 8. Debate: Government Priorities and the Legislative Programme

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:42 pm on 4 October 2016.

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Photo of Nick Ramsay Nick Ramsay Conservative 5:42, 4 October 2016

For me, the most important part of this document is actually on the last page, and the paragraph ‘Driving Forward Delivery’. Now, I know that other Members have, over the last few weeks, criticised the length of this document, but, to be honest, I’d rather see a few targets being met than a lot of targets being missed. So, delivery is key here—[Interruption.] Bless you. [Laughter.]

We know now that the delivery unit has bitten the dust, or, at least, has metamorphosed into a new shadowy form of which we are not yet aware. I don’t particularly mind that—we criticised it enough—but we do, of course, need to see new mechanisms in place to ensure that delivery does happen. And, of course, we need a relentless focus on driving improvement in public services. You would’ve hoped that that would have been there anyway and would be obvious, but then things aren’t always as obvious as people might think. But I think that, certainly, that focus on driving improvement is key.

I think the concern that we have here is that we’ve obviously been waiting for a long time in a number of areas for delivery to kick in. We haven’t been holding our breath, certainly not on this side of the Chamber. Let me be clear, there are proposals in here, First Minister, that have very real potential: a development bank, on whatever form of that you decide—a development bank certainly has a lot of potential, even more important with the results of the referendum that other Members have mentioned and the need to support infrastructure and the economy; improvement in public sector procurement—well, that’s not anything that you would argue with: we’ve all held debates over the last few months where we’ve spoken about the need for improving procurement across Wales; and, of course, the development of the metro, and, yes, the development of the north Wales metro is certainly an ambition. But I think we need to focus resources at the moment and our minds to getting the south Wales metro off the ground and not allowing that to go backwards.

So, there are a number of things where you will get cross-party support, but the question is: can the public be confident that, over the next five years, they will actually see delivery and, when the Welsh Government does report on all this at the end of the fifth Assembly, that the ambitions of this document, if one can call them that, have been realised? I think the jury is out on that at the moment.

If I can turn to the other part of this debate, the legislative programme, combined for the first time with the programme for government—you’ve saved UKIP at least one debate to boycott. [Laughter.] You identified in your statement on 27 September the issue of taxation as being key, and you are right to do so. Specifically, you mentioned in the statement land transaction tax and landfill disposals tax and this is indeed very new ground for this institution. These are areas that the Finance Committee in particular is looking at at the moment, and other committees will be. So, this is obviously work in progress, but it is clear for all of us to see that it is vital that we get this right. This is new territory: the first time that Wales has raised its own taxes in 800 years—I think that was the figure mentioned by the First Minister. The public are only just becoming aware of this development and it’s something that they will want to have confidence in as the process goes on.

The programme for government doesn’t say much about the way that new taxes can be used to stimulate the economy. I’m sure that’s the idea of them. Simon Thomas mentioned this in his comments earlier. So, it’s one thing to have the devolution of taxation, but we do need to have a bit more meat on the bones as to how that taxation is going to be used to stimulate the economy. There is, I think, a little bit in the programme about the use of, at least I assume it is, business rates and having a fairer taxation regime for companies, but it isn’t clear. So, we do look forward to greater clarity on that.

This is a debate that joins the programme of government and that legislative statement, First Minister. I must say, whilst that’s a noble aim, it doesn’t seem to me that these two are working completely together at the moment. We often talk about the need to relate outcomes with the energy we’re putting in at the start, and I think there are still some gaps as to how the legislative programme of the Government will fit in with what the programme of government states and those outcomes that you’ve stated. So, I think that it’s work in progress, First Minister. In conclusion, some good ideas, not enough as far as we are concerned, but let’s make sure that those that are in there do happen and that we see the economic and public service improvements by the end of 20 years—in two years—of devolution that we would all want to see.