7. 4. Statement: Update on Local Government Reform

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:03 pm on 4 October 2016.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 4:03, 4 October 2016

Thank you for the questions. I won’t spend a lot of time going over previous history, but there are a series of things in the draft Bill that was published that were very much welcomed by local authorities—the general power of competence, the new local government performance framework, the strengthening of the role of local councillors and so on. So, there is quite a lot to build from.

Turning to the specific questions, in terms of consultation, my plan is to use the rest of this calendar year to have a further round of detailed discussions with local authorities and their partners on the statement that I’ve made this afternoon. If we can bring that to a successful conclusion, then there will be a formal consultation, as we will be required to undertake on these matters. So, there’s an extended period of discussion coming up.

I regard voluntary mergers as being capable of being carried out alongside regional arrangements; I don’t think the one has to follow in time after the other.

In terms of the systematic and mandatory nature of the reforms we’re trying to bring about: both of those principles are important to me. We need to make sure that the arrangements we agree happen in the same way across Wales and I’m not, myself, prepared to follow the advice that I’ve had from a relatively small minority of local authority leaders that we should simply leave it to them, tell them what we’d like them to do, and I’m sure they would get on and do it. I’m afraid we’ve been round the track of bringing horses to water, encouraging them, leading them round the pool, letting them see their reflection in the water, hoping they will drink, only to find out, at the last minute, somebody makes a bolt for it, and we end up not being able to carry out things that most people would regard as sensible.

I don’t believe that this is a new layer of bureaucracy. It doesn’t lead to more elected councillors, certainly. And, as I’ve said, there is a large history of shared regional arrangements in Wales without that accusation being made against it. The origins of the proposals come through discussions with members of all political parties. We do have, through our compact, a particular relationship with Plaid Cymru, and I had a very early discussion with their local government spokesperson, as I think you would expect in those circumstances. And I’ve discussed directly the proposals with Plaid Cymru leaders of councils in Wales, as I have with Conservative Party leaders, Labour leaders, and leaders of no political party at all. My aim has been to try and find a way in which we can create a consensus in which we draw together strands from a range of different sources.

Finally, on shared services, I said in my statement that I want to be clear that we must make progress on that. Procurement will be a part of it, but we do need to do it sensitively. I can’t imagine that if I had said today that we were going to take shared services away from Conwy Borough Council and locate them in a single shared service centre somewhere 200 miles away that members of her electorate would be coming up congratulating Janet on the Conservative party’s approach to that matter. So, we will take it forward, but we’ll do it in a way that is sensitive to local needs and circumstances.