I think it is common ground, and that’s exactly what Lee did say, I think. Your point is well made and reiterated by the Member. Can I say that I’m not opposed to the collective responsibility of trying to rebuild our communities and our town centres? All of these things should feed into the consideration by the Minister responsible for business rates over the next few weeks.

I’m grateful for the opportunity to respond to colleagues in the debate today. I will pick up the points that Mr McEvoy raised in this. It was a very angry contribution this afternoon. I may just point him to the point when he was deputy leader of the council here in Cardiff: he never referred to or did any of those things in that particular role in his duties. But I’m very happy to continue the debate with Members across the Chamber.