Thank you, Presiding Officer, and I’m grateful for Mark Isherwood’s contribution. I think, underneath all of that, Mark was actually subtly saying, ‘Well done’ to the Minister, as I think he actually agrees with us, on the basis he was trying to claim credit for some of that. But, on a very real point, the Member raised a couple of issues that I can pick up on. Why was the decision not taken five years ago, and why did we refuse to agree with the recommendations in the report? Well, we didn’t; we made changes to the programme at that time and increased the opportunities around employability, and the last independent report supported the logic model at the time of the refocusing of the 2012 programme. So, we did make some changes. But, we are in a place in time. As I said in the statement, when Communities First was developed, nobody ever envisaged zero-hour contracts or the changes around Brexit or the employment issues. These are things that we have to tackle here and now, and I am excited by the whole new opportunity around the Families First programme and the Flying Start programme, which are very successful interventions—100,000 new all-age apprenticeships and the childcare programme, which is the best settlement around childcare for working parents anywhere in the UK, will be delivered in our communities to help and support the people who he and I represent.

With regard to engagement, I’m very keen to work with all organisations to see how we can better deliver for our communities. The Member raised some very specific programmes, and I don’t have a view on those, but working with agencies like the WCVA will ensure that we can get into communities where Government can sometimes find it hard to do so in the engagement programme.

I don’t agree with the Member with regard to Oxfam’s view on the issue that this Government has lost its way in terms of promoting and tackling poverty. Jane Hutt earlier said about Ken Skates holding the ring for Government in tackling poverty, and I hold some of the programmes, particularly poverty among children and young people, but it is the responsibility of all of the Government to tackle the issue of poverty. The First Minister has been very clear: just because it doesn’t have a line in the programme for government doesn’t mean we’re not interested. If the Member wished to have a line for everything, then they’d be complaining about the programme for government being three very weighty documents in terms of naming everything that we do. Can I assure the Member that poverty has high prominence to make sure that we tackle this across the Government, and not just me or Ken Skates, but all Ministers within this Government?