Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I’ve taken some flak in this Chamber, particularly from Members opposite, in the past for suggesting that Communities First was not effective and not working as it should. That was borne out of the experience of living in a Communities First community myself. I’m not going to welcome the statement as such, however, as I’m not clear yet what the national anti-poverty strategy now is. But can I say to the Minister that £300 million has been spent on Communities First areas? And £100 million has been spent since the 2011 Wales Audit Office report that said it wasn’t working and wasn’t effective at tackling the main aim, which was economic deprivation in those communities. That’s borne out by the fact that the original communities in Communities First in 2001 are still the 100 most deprived communities in Wales. So, taken as that, it hasn’t been effective. Having said that, there have been lots of soft measures that I’ve seen working effectively in bringing communities together and in working to enhance people’s confidence. So, we don’t want to lose that either.

But my main question to the Minister now is: how is he going to ensure that this new programme, or series of programmes, doesn’t reinvent the wheel, but actually builds on what we have and what is already effective? Can I suggest to him that he listens to the wise words of John Griffiths, because what we have and what is already effective is where community schools get really involved in their communities? The best example I’ve seen of that is Pembroke Dock Community School in my region, in a Communities First area, which really integrates everything together. That is the model for the future. I recommend that he goes and sees it with Kirsty Williams if she hasn’t—[Interruption.]. She’s already been. I’ve certainly been several times. It’s a wonderful example of how this can be pursued. And rather than reinvent the wheel, rather than talk about child zones or whatever it may be, just think again: we have the schools, we have the ability, through schools, to work across ward boundaries and to work directly with families. That’s the best way forward. Give the money to Kirsty Williams. I’m sure she knows how to spend it [Laughter.]