Well, I certainly congratulate Merthyr Tydfil and Caerphilly councils for the approach that they have adopted and the leadership that they have shown in this area. The Member began, I thought, with the most important case for the real living wage, that it actually benefits employers as well as employees, and that there are strict business advantages to companies who deploy the real living wage in terms of reduced sickness, reduced absence, reduced recruitment costs, reduced training costs. It makes good business sense, and the leadership that local authorities have shown in this area helps to demonstrate that proposition.