Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:39 pm on 1 November 2016.
I thank the First Minister for his statement today. He and I, of course, will disagree and will have differing views in terms of the need for a more urgent and more clear position on the part of the Welsh Government in relation to our withdrawal from the European Union. But I’d like to focus my questions to him on what has been secured in the recent Joint Ministerial Committee plenary meeting.
In his statement, he mentioned the need to ensure, as far as possible, a UK-wide consensus. What is crucial in this respect is, of course, the appropriate mechanism for that to be achieved. He’s mentioned that the JMC will have a new body—the JMC (EN). Can he inform us if the UK Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union will be made accountable and answerable to that new JMC body, or will it be more of an advisory body for the civil service of the United Kingdom Government? Is it that body's role to seek either a shared UK position that he talks about, or will there be an ability through that JMC body to secure bespoke Brexit arrangements for each constituent part of the United Kingdom? I wonder if he can give us a sense of whether that body is going to be the basis for the UK Brexit negotiating position.
In his statement, he refers to the need for Wales's funding arrangements to be adjusted in order to mitigate and accommodate the fact that we will be withdrawing from the European Union. Of course, we on the Plaid Cymru benches agree with that, but can he tell us whether this is already a feature of his Government's negotiations with the British state on a new fiscal framework for Wales? Will that framework, from the outset, factor in the impact of Brexit, or will we need to renegotiate a new fiscal framework almost immediately on adopting the very first one?
He mentions in his statement the issue of migration, and I welcome his comments relating to full condemnation of xenophobia and racism, and his message, as well, of welcome to EU citizens who live here now and who contribute to our country, and Plaid Cymru will join him in condemning any racism and xenophobia that occurs. Has he had any further thoughts on the wider implications of a new UK immigration policy on the Welsh economy and public services specifically? I'm asking in particular relation to the possibility of Wales and the Welsh Government having the ability to issue Welsh work permits, so that, where there are shortages in skills or expertise in either the public or private sectors, his Government will be able to issue permanent and temporary work permits, so that we don't have a one-size-fits-all UK immigration system that might be to the detriment of Wales, but which may be, perhaps—call me a cynic—to the benefit of somewhere such as the City of London?
The First Minister has rightly highlighted the constitutional challenges that we have and those that will emerge over the coming period. The European repeal Bill, or, as some refer to it, the great repeal Bill, will be one of those challenges, particularly in relation to matters that are currently devolved. I've asked him previously whether he envisages a need for a Welsh European repeal Bill. I wonder if he can update us on whether or not he believes there will be a need, at one point or another, for a specific Welsh repeal Bill or even, dare I say it, a Welsh continuation Bill, so there is clarity, as far as it goes, in terms of previous European legislation and previous ECJ judgments as they relate to matters that are devolved in Welsh law, as he has referred to in his statement.
I welcome his very clear messages in terms of the constitution that there will be no tolerance on the part of the Welsh Government if it comes to attempted power grabs from the British state on matters that are devolved, and Plaid Cymru, of course, supports the very sensible approach for collaboration between the governments of these islands when it comes to matters where co-operation is essential—on agriculture, farming, and the environment, for example. Can he, therefore, take us a step further and share, perhaps, a vision for how he thinks that can be accommodated once we've left the European Union? Does he, for example, believe that the JMC (EN) should turn, on our withdrawal from the European Union, into a UK council of Ministers that is permanent in standing, that shares civil servants among all the devolved Governments and the central Government, so that there is a continuous, inter-governmental structure that can accommodate the differing needs of the United Kingdom and can facilitate co-operation, rather than the rather ad hoc and, I would argue, unacceptable way that we conduct inter-governmental relations at the moment?
Finally, he mentions the Nissan announcement. Did the Prime Minister have the courtesy to provide the First Minister and the other heads of government with any sort of heads-up in the JMC meeting that the Nissan announcement was imminent? Or does the First Minister have the impression from the nature of that announcement that the UK's approach, if we can call it an approach to Brexit, is sector by sector, rather than nation by nation? And is he able to clarify whether the promises made to Nissan will apply to car manufacturers here in Wales? Of course, as he's mentioned, it’s a vitally important industry here, worth £3 billion and supporting around 18,000 jobs. And finally, Llywydd, did he call the UK Government’s new Brexit hotline, perhaps to ask some of these questions, and, if so, does he feel that his call was important to them? [Laughter.]