Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:02 pm on 1 November 2016.
I appreciate the constraints of time so I’ll be quick and brief. First Minister, thank you for your statement. I very much appreciate the update we’ve received and I look forward to scrutinising you next week when you come to the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee on this particular issue.
I think it’s important today to highlight that manufacturing is not the price we’re going to pay for the financial sector in the south-east of England. It will be devastating for my constituency and my constituents, as you already know, with the issue of steel and other aspects. So, I won’t go any further on that point.
In relation to the great repeal Bill, I agree with Steffan Lewis: the ‘great’ Bill is perhaps the wrong term—it’s propaganda as he highlighted yesterday. The Scottish Parliament external affairs committee actually received a report from Professor Sionaidh Douglas-Scott on the possibility of a continuation Act, which puts into place the possibility—if we didn’t get the transfer of laws to this Assembly—of ensuring that the reaffirmation of European laws comes here and we put them into our laws. Now it’s possible they would be repealed by the UK Government, but it sets a statement if we’re finding that the great repeal Bill actually does try to claw back information. Will you look at this opportunity to see that, if the clawback is there, we have an alternative that places this institution at the heart of EU areas of devolved responsibility? I think it’s important that we do look at that.
Can you also highlight the question as to what discussions you’re having with other devolved administrations in relation to the representations to EU states and other EU partner bodies to ensure that our voice is heard in Europe? It is important that we can influence people in Europe to ensure that they listen to our concerns as well, so when they negotiate on behalf of the EU, they understand the position of the Welsh people, particularly here in Wales. I think that’s an important aspect.
In relation to the repeal Bill, have you had a chance to start looking at the possible implications following the Wales Bill? Because clearly the Wales Bill will have a different perspective now because we’ll have reserved powers in this situation. We’re already concerned about some of those issues and what impact that may have upon that to affect the constitution. And I would also look at whether you’ve had discussions. Because clearly, from your statement, the UK Government is all over the place and they haven’t got any detail at all. Have you had any discussions in relation to issues like procurement and the rules? On state aid, for example, I’m assuming there’ll be World Trade Organization state aid rules if we leave the EU without any consideration. So, we’ll still be applying state aid rules. Have you had discussions with other devolved nations as to how we will use that as a sort of collective to approach the important situations across the UK? Our needs are different to Scotland’s, Scotland’s needs are different to the north of England’s; it’s important that we get a collective view upon that.