Thank you for the follow-up points. I don’t wish to continue to have a row and a series of angry exchanges about the future of paediatric services in west Wales, but it’s hard not to when the Member refuses to acknowledge the factual evidence available and the very best clinical advice about the service model being provided. We have rehearsed time and time again the review by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, which confirms that the new service model has improved outcomes for women and their babies, and simply denying that that is the case is producing a climate of fear and uncertainty, is wholly unnecessary and does a real discredit to people providing that service and families who need that service.

There is an issue with regard to the recruitment of paediatric consultants right across the UK, and it’s no surprise that we see that here in Wales as well. I’m pleased that there has been some acknowledgement about the press release that the health board have issued, which confirms that they are committed to recruiting to the model that they have. I can confirm that I expect interviews will take place in December and January for new consultant posts, and the challenge here is how you build upon a service model that does make sense as part of a wider whole. And that’s what we’re committed to doing. We’ll support the health board in doing what it needs to, to try and recruit not just consultants, but other grades of staff there as well, to make sure that the whole service model actually delivers on what people need. That’s why I’m delighted to see, for example, that there are more nurses within the service now than before the changes were made as well. In fact, far from saying that the service changes have made things more difficult, I think this particular issue reinforces the need for service change that is designed to deliver a better service—the best evidence, the best available clinical advice and the best outcome and the best service for people that we should be in business to serve and honestly represent.