6. 5. Plaid Cymru Debate: Climate Change

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:05 pm on 2 November 2016.

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Photo of Mr Simon Thomas Mr Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru 3:05, 2 November 2016

I did think for a second that a statement had wandered into a speech, but there we are. The Member’s right, of course, and we had the evidence this morning in the committee. The commitment has been reduced, and I think the Government has a real question to answer. My colleagues will address the energy efficiency point, in particular, during this debate, because I think there’s a challenge there for this Government to walk the talk, as it were.

I would have to say to the Member, however, that even a reduction from £70-odd million to £50 million is better than wiping out the budget altogether, which I think was in his manifesto commitments, so—.We have to say that, I think. But the rest of my speech will be concentrating on the Government’s faults in this regard.

I think we are really missing a huge opportunity here to also move ahead on renewable energy. I know that some people are sceptical here that renewable energy can possibly answer our problems, but renewable energy is just short-circuiting the several billion years it takes to create gas and coal. We have plants that can use chlorophyll to take the energy of the sun and turn it into carbon. We don’t need that anymore; our technology has moved on. We take the energy of the sun directly in solar and in wind, because wind is solar energy, and we take it and we use it directly for our own purposes. All we need is storage—storage is the missing gap—but there is immense work being done in places as far afield as Lampeter and Trefforest to develop really innovative storage solutions for renewable energy.

So, let’s take that as our opportunity, and let’s also embrace some huge challenges but important infrastructure projects like the tidal lagoon in Swansea bay, which really now must get the support of the Westminster Government and must go ahead, both in terms of infrastructure spending and skills, but also as a signal change of the approach that we’re going to take towards energy for the future. I know that the Government is supporting that, but I very much hope that the Government will be supportive in a practical way, and look at ways that it can actually support the supply chain around it, look at ways that it can really send a signal to Westminster that we’re ready to go for the tidal lagoon, and that Wales has the skills and the people and the job creation and the ambition to see that happen here.

As has already been mentioned—because my final comments were on the cuts to the capital allocation, but Mark Reckless has already mentioned those, so I’ll just conclude by saying at this stage that I’m looking forward to this debate because I really think this is something that should unite us. I really think this is something where we can argue about the detail of what should be doing to tackle climate change, but the idea is that Wales, with an honourable tradition of energy production, with a very strong skills tradition of using our natural resources for energy needs, and a very honourable tradition as well of international co-operation and collaboration, can really send a strong signal. It will be heard in Marrakesh—yes, even Wales’s voice will be heard in Marrakesh. I know the Minister would want to do that anyway, but, by coming together as an Assembly, we can make our voice heard. I also hope that the Assembly itself can be represented in Marrakesh, because I think it’s important that parliaments go to international collaborative events as well. I know that other parliaments will be there, and I hope that we will rise to that occasion.