Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:35 pm on 8 November 2016.
I cannot thank the Member more, and I would never, ever question his wisdom or his ideas. He is, to me, something of an Obi-Wan Kenobi to my slightly naive Skywalker. But in all seriousness, I think it is about protecting our heritage and protecting the institutions for the future, but ensuring that the institutions serve the people of Wales first and foremost, and that we do not take our eyes off the horizon.