Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:54 pm on 8 November 2016.
I thank the Member for her important contribution today and demonstrating her approach to the way she respects the armed forces and veterans, and remembers the people who have lost their lives in service, and also the families in that way, too.
A couple of points I’ll respond to: on the FIFA principle, I know the Member is an avid Welsh fan. I’ve seen her with my own eyes in a Welsh top, as with many other people in this Assembly, and long may that last. But I think the issue for me is that the great success in the UK is the power of freedom of speech, and I think if people wish to do this, they should be allowed to do that. And I certainly won’t be the one to condemn individuals if they wish to wear a poppy or they don’t wear a poppy. Respect is of the heart of the individual, and whether that’s by respecting somebody and commemorating Armistice Day and Sunday, whether that be within the confines of their own home or whether it be at the Cenotaph to take a moment of time, that is down to the individual and I fear that, often, we are too critical of each other in terms of the presentation of respect.
I share the Member’s views in terms of the overt way that people are criticising other faiths. I know many Muslim communities myself who have a lot of respect for the armed forces and the way that they go about this, but people do use this as a false pretence of racism, and we have to do everything we can in our power to stop that. The Member had some very strong views on many of these issues, and I’m grateful to her for bringing those to the Assembly’s attention today, but ultimately people will respect each other in the way that they feel fit, and long may that last.