With respect, even though I acknowledge the work that is being done in Wales to tackle smoking, when I’m talking about the successes that have happened over the past decades, I’m talking about successes that have happened on a worldwide basis as this problem has been recognised. It’s clear to me that we need to take a long-term approach, starting now, with regard to obesity too.

I hope that the debate this afternoon will be a way to bring a number of ideas to the table with regard to further steps that could be taken here. But the parallel with smoking, I think, does give us one other warning, I believe. A huge amount of money has been invested over the years in preventing action by governments on smoking. Can you and the Welsh Government give an assurance that you will be restricting the influence of the corporate world on public health policy in Wales with regard to obesity too, so that we won’t have to wait for decades for action as we had to with smoking and also with preventing climate change?