Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:27 pm on 13 December 2016.
I thank the Member for her contribution. I hope she got a flavour from the contribution I made in the statement that it is time for change—it’s about standing up and saying that what we’re currently doing isn’t working as well as it could. We need to change programmes that we’re moving to deliver.
I think the Member did raise the issue around the percentage drop of 2 per cent over the last three years. I do believe that that is probably a statistical quirk—I don’t believe it’s a true reflection of what’s happening. We’ve seen over a 15-year period that the poverty stats for children have bounced along the bottom. It’s a very stubborn indicator to move, and that’s why I think we have to have a whole-Government rethink about what our interventions are. The WFG Act lends itself very well to that, because now this isn’t just about the Government having responsibility for poverty, this is about the 44 public bodies out there as well having an involvement and thinking about what we do for our young people and our communities, and the resilience out there.
The Member raised the issue particularly around Communities First. She is right to say that I haven’t made a decision yet, but the involvement that is part of the principle of the WFG Act—we’ve had over 1,500 responses in already with regard to that, and I think that’s a very effective way of ensuring that my team is both digitally enabling access to communities and individuals but also having conversations with clusters. We’ve been out and about talking—indeed, I think John Griffiths held an event that my officials attended last Friday, and they very positively had a discussion about what the future may or may not look like.
With regard to other areas the Member covered, I agree with the Member—she talks about financial inclusion, and we’ll be launching the draft financial inclusion strategy this week, which I’m sure that the Member will be very keen to have a further discussion on. But the broader principle of what we’re trying to do here is to enable young people and families—it’s about giving families resilience in order for them to be able to help themselves as well.
On the issue around child zones in the Member’s question—and, again, one of her colleagues always asks me a very similar question around child zones—I’ve already started work with several organisations. We’ve asked for expressions of interest about what this may look like in their communities, but it’s about building on what is already there—so, Families First, Flying Start, social workers, local authorities, Government intervention bodies—and wrapping those services around a family unit. And it’s not new; the concept has been trialled in other countries, and we think that we can do this. What I can’t promise, and the Member is a realist—the fact is, this doesn’t mean additional cash, but what we’ve got to do with what we do have, we have to have better services, and the concept of the children’s zone is one of those. And I had a meeting with Cymru Well Wales last week, which is one of many organisations, including Public Health Wales, local authorities and housing associations, that are coming together to look at the introduction of ACE zones and children’s zones, and how they combine and how they operate. So, I’ve got external partners looking at how they deliver these policies.