This has been a very interesting debate, and I was particularly interested in what Llyr Gruffydd has just said about a hub-and-spoke method of electricity distribution. I’ve got a great deal of sympathy with the Plaid Cymru motion, although I think my friend Michelle Brown also had some important things to say in her contribution to the debate—points that are often, perhaps, ignored.

I do wonder what the benefit will be overall of burying electricity cables underground if we then pepper the countryside through which they go with endless windfarms. So, why aren’t we debating today burying windmills underground, as well? I ask ironically. So, I do think that there is a fundamental contradiction in Plaid Cymru policy, because travelling through—