Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:24 pm on 24 January 2017.
I thank Michelle Brown for her questions and her recognition that this is a live issue for parents and for teachers, and I agree with her. Michelle asked about why this is only being used for infants. As I’ve explained, I would love to cut class sizes right the way across the education sector, but I have to do it in a way that is cognisant of the budgets that are available to me, cognisant of the fact that there are other programmes that we need to fund to improve education in Wales, and to follow the evidence. This is where the evidence says this money will make the biggest difference. Michelle asked about classes with large numbers of additional learning needs. We do know that some schools do have a higher than national average proportion of children with additional learning needs in that classroom, and that, again, is an area where we know that this money will make the biggest difference, so we will be looking at whether certain classes, where they have large numbers of pupils in them, but also have a significant proportion or a higher number than average of children with additional learning needs—at whether they can benefit from this.
The Member is quite right that there are other things that we need to do, and I am perfectly cognisant of that. Again, if I can quote the work that was done by the University of Toronto, and I will quote directly from them,
‘the full gains of class size reduction cannot be achieved if it is implemented without paying attention to other factors that support innovative practice. Some of the most important factors include the ways in which teachers and students work together; the curriculum in use; and teachers’ opportunities to learn new teaching strategies.’
Of course, that’s exactly what we’re doing. When you say you wanted other details, you are aware—and I know, because you’ve met with Professor Donaldson yourself, I understand—of our curriculum reform changes. I’ve already outlined in my statement that we are undertaking a radical reform of initial teacher training. We will publish new teaching standards later on this year. So, this isn’t being taken alone. This, again, is following the best international advice, that this policy is being delivered in conjunction with all the other steps and reforms that we know will make sure that this policy is a successful part of our reform programme. And there are budgets associated with all those programmes. I know you know that because you asked very difficult questions about that when I came to the committee—about how I was spending money on the curriculum. So, I know that you’re aware of what the budget allocations are, because we answered questions in committee on that. Thank you.