I think the intermediate care fund is providing us with just that evidence. We have a £60 million intermediate care fund, which is really transforming the way that local authorities and health boards work together, including meeting people’s needs.

Just this morning, I was in Ystradgynlais, seeing the good work that they’re doing there in terms of bringing together health and social care, and they did include the allied professionals as well. I sat in on one of the team meetings where cases were discussed, and it was absolutely incredible to see how quickly packages of care could come into place when they had all the right people around the table. So, we are gathering that evidence.

Our intermediate care fund projects are providing us with information on a quarterly basis and we’re analysing that, looking at what really works. Because we’re starting to get to the point now when we can demonstrate the number of nights saved to the NHS, for example, and we have surveys of satisfaction from people who’ve been recipients of care through the intermediate care fund. I think it’s fair to say that we’ve been blown away by the success that we are seeing in the various projects right across Wales. I’ve visited projects in Swansea, Bridgend, and a couple up in north Wales as well. Although the approaches are different in different places, I think it’s important that different projects in different areas learn from one another. I think that the fact that professionals are freed up to do their jobs and to learn from one another, and not to have these artificial barriers between health and social care, is really making a difference to the care that people receive.