Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:36 pm on 25 January 2017.
Can I thank Llyr for his kind comments to me, and thank him, too, for his questions, which I will do my best to answer? I completely agree in relation to prevention. We know that it’s absolutely key in all sorts of areas, and it’s something that we always need to be trying to do more of. I think that is one of the reasons why our inquiry into the first 1,000 days will be so important, because we know that that first two years of a child’s life is absolutely critical, and I hope that we can add value to the work that the Government is doing on this to try and really make that a time when we can focus on prevention.
The other area, of course, is child and adolescent mental health services. We know that there are lots of children and young people who are being referred into specialist CAMHS who don’t perhaps need specialist CAMHS, who should be getting support in the school system, through youth services. And I think that the work that we are doing in scrutinising the Together for Children and Young People will hopefully help drive that work forward in schools, in youth centres, and with counsellors, and make an important contribution to that.
I agree with you about the importance of parity of esteem between vocational and education. It’s not an area that, as you know, we’ve spent a lot of time on so far, only in consideration of things like Diamond, where the committee was able to welcome the emphasis that Professor Diamond put on funding students in vocational training as well. And I hope that we will be able to continue that. I would like to see it being a thread in lots of our inquiries, and you’ll know that in our early scrutiny of the additional learning needs Bill, one of the issues that is coming up regularly is to ask why the Bill doesn’t cover things like apprenticeships. And I think we need to keep doing that, really, to mainstream into all our work.
In relation to the points you’ve raised about the Minister for Lifelong Learning and the Welsh Language and CWVYS, obviously I shared the committee’s concerns about the way that the dialogue with CWVYS was handled. I was very clear about that at the time, and I was very keen to pursue those concerns with the Minister. Clearly, it would have been better if we’d had straight answers from the very beginning. I think it is very important that Ministers engage as openly as possible with committees. I know that the Minister has received our most recent letter, and I really hope that we will now get a definitive answer and be able to move on, really, to consider what is a huge issue, which is the whole future of youth services in Wales.
And then, finally, your points on young people and their involvement, I think, are really important. I know that the culture and media committee did an exercise in public engagement, asking people to choose an inquiry, and I would certainly be very enthusiastic about doing that with young people. I’m also very, very keen, really, to look at any innovative things that we can try, such as shadowing opportunities or maybe even having a shadowing committee. I’d like to see us having young people in here and involving them. Anything that I think encourages young people to get involved is going to be vitally important, especially with the challenges that we face going forward.