I welcome the comprehensive response of the statement to the Hazelkorn review, but I’ll confine my remarks to a specific but—I think—very important issue. Hazelkorn and this statement recognise that there must be a concerted attempt to deliver parity of esteem of vocational and academic pathways. I believe that this means that new and vastly improved advice, guidance and training, as appropriate, will need to be provided to schools, teachers and careers advisers on how to guide our young people—and parents—towards the appropriate pathways. To ascertain the scale of the challenge, we may first need to do some analysis of the current level of awareness and understanding of parents, guardians and educators of the different pathways available. I think that that’s a simple fact. Nowadays, many parents and older pupils increasingly turn to the internet for careers advice, or to seek information on colleges, FEIs and universities, for apprenticeship opportunities or traineeships. The Careers Wales portal is having a refresh, which is very welcome, because it needs to be the go-to site for timely appropriate guidance and for specific opportunities. It hasn’t served that function well in the recent past. So, I would ask the Minister to encourage them to continue improving that portal and the wider service they provide.

Can I ask the Minister to consider how the wider UK offer is incorporated into this advice? Often, larger companies with a UK presence offer opportunities outside of Wales. Whilst I’d love for all of our aspirant aerospace engineers or civil engineers to want to spend their whole lives working here, in their homeland, the reality is that—like me, when I was a young sports centre manager—people will find that the call takes them away before ‘hiraeth’ brings them back. So, how do we incorporate that within the advice that we’re giving?

And would she agree with me that we will know when we’ve done success? It’s when she and I step into those school prize-giving and award ceremonies and they give equal prominence to vocational success as to academic success; they celebrate BTEC and BTEC higher rewards, offers of apprenticeships and traineeships and higher apprenticeships with leading Welsh and UK companies, alongside offers of university places. Then we’ll know we’ve really succeeded.