The conversations I have with the Wales Council for Voluntary Action and CVCs are important ones on the basis that I know that if we didn’t have volunteers in our communities, statutory services would collapse; we wouldn’t be able to deliver the things that we want to do together. That’s why I value the work that these organisations do. But I’m under no illusion that what we have to do is take out some of the duplication and make sure we’ve got good, efficient services, and that accounts for both the voluntary sector and the third sector, and also the public sector response as well. Working together, we can get through this. But, as I’ve said in the past, I’ve made £4.4 million of funding available this year, and I will look carefully at how that develops over the next coming years.