8. 6. ‘Securing Wales' Future’: Transition from the European Union to a New Relationship with Europe

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:59 pm on 7 February 2017.

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Photo of Mr Neil Hamilton Mr Neil Hamilton UKIP 4:59, 7 February 2017

Of course different markets and different products will be affected by exiting the EU unless we continue the trading arrangements that we have at the moment. That’s why it is of course right that the Welsh Government should feed into the negotiating process. But the Welsh Government is not interested, actually, in feeding into this negotiating process, because they start from the opposite end of the negotiation as far as the British Government is concerned. They say in this document that

‘any restrictions to the free movement of workers would severely impact Wales’ ability to access’ all sorts of things. And the bottom line for the First Minister, and I presume for Plaid Cymru as well, is that there must be free movement of workers throughout the European Union. Their ability should be unfettered to come to this country, not just to take up offers of work, but also to look for work. That is what free movement requires under the EEA rules. This is what happens in Norway, and Norway is of course part of the Schengen agreement as well. It would actually make things worse if we adopted the Norway model as recommended by the First Minister the other day.

You have to accept that the referendum result on 23 June was overwhelmingly motivated by fears on the part of the British public and the Welsh public on migration. If you ignore that, you ignore it at your peril. I give you that piece of free advice to take to heart. We don’t know whether the EU is going to do the sensible thing. The ball is in their court, not in ours. We’ve said what we want to do: we want to carry on trading with them in as free a way as we do at the moment.

In almost every single sector of our trade with the EU, Britain is heavily in surplus. Let’s take lamb, which the honourable lady mentioned in the course of her speech. The figures on agricultural products are very illuminating, actually. Our exports of lamb to the EU—I’ve only got the UK figures, I haven’t got Welsh figures. But, the UK figures are £392 million a year of imports of lamb from the EU and £302 million of exports. We have a deficit of £90 million a year in lamb.

We could afford, with the Brexit dividend—the £8 billion that we currently give to Brussels to spend on agriculture and other things in other parts of the EU—we could afford to buy lamb for every single person in this country and give it out for nothing, if we wanted to. That is what—. It’s an option that we, as elected legislators, will have. We will be responsible for our decisions in this place, and those at Westminster, and we will be accountable to the people. That is something that is, of course, lacking as a result of democratic deficit in the EU. I give way.