Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:14 pm on 7 February 2017.
I’m not quite sure whether that’s what the leader of Plaid Cymru believes it to be, and I do believe that, obviously, the sentiment is about independence. But I did hear the rural affairs Secretary say that I do need some help in understanding these issues. I would ask the rural affairs Secretary, if she wishes to comment from a sedentary position, why doesn’t she now endorse UK agriculture, which, at the Royal Welsh Show, she chose to say that there was no such thing as UK agriculture? Why, if she has such an interest—[Interruption.] If she has such an interest in agriculture and supporting the agricultural industry in the country, why doesn’t she make progress on bovine TB, where Wales is at risk of being designated as ‘endemic’, an endemic country, which will close export markets to Wales? [Interruption.] That is a fact. Now, if you want to comment from a sedentary position, try and say something positive instead of looking for sensational headlines.
I have—[Interruption.] I have, when this document was published, actually looked at it and looked at some of the grounds that we could find common ground over, such as the framework that would support measures when we do leave the European Union on a UK basis; I think we could have reached agreement on that. The Chairman of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee, in responding to the statement that we had some two weeks ago, recognised that there are areas that, as an Assembly, we can work positively with.
The one area I think that does need a considerable piece of work done by this Assembly is the transition arrangements, because we look at the transition arrangements when it comes from Europe to the United Kingdom, but there is a huge piece of work to determine the transition arrangements within the United Kingdom itself so that we don’t get those disparities. Again, I believe that could have been a really positive bit of work that we could have undertaken and had common agreement over. But I have listened to the comments that have come forward, especially from the principal speaker from the Labour Party group talking about the residents of Merthyr Tydfil, and I do remind Members in this Chamber that it was a 71 per cent turnout at the referendum. Seventy-one per cent of voters—[Interruption.] I will take the intervention in a minute, but—[Interruption.] Well, if I could just finish the point I’m taking forward, then I’ll gladly take the intervention.
Seventy-one per cent of the voters of Wales participated in the referendum. That doesn’t mean that we should discount the 48/49 per cent of voters that voted to remain. That is a significant number in the equation. But there was a key decision made here in Wales and the rest of the United Kingdom that needs to be respected, and the United Kingdom Government has taken that forward, and, actually, through the process of bringing forward the triggering of article 50, the debates in the House of Commons, the actual Supreme Court case—and, admittedly, they were taken to the Supreme Court, but that is what we live under; we live under the rule of law, that is people’s right to go there. But we as politicians need to enact what the people send us here to achieve, and Wales voted to come out.
What we need to be doing now is doing the best job possible to make sure that those negotiations benefit not just Wales, but the entire United Kingdom. And those issues are going to be complicated, those negotiations will be long, but, ultimately, there is a time frame: 730 days once article 50 is acted. Instead of some of the narrow views that have wanted to replicate the referendum result that happened on 23 June, let’s move beyond that. Let’s actually work some of these issues through.
I continue to make that offer from the Conservative benches, that we will work with any party and any individual to secure the best deal possible for Wales and the United Kingdom. But there was one issue that was very clear from the referendum that was held on 23 June, and that was the message that the people of the United Kingdom and Wales gave to politicians: to take back control. And that’s the instruction.