5. 4. Debate on Members' Legislative Proposals

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:45 pm on 8 February 2017.

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Photo of David Lloyd David Lloyd Plaid Cymru 2:45, 8 February 2017

Diolch yn fawr, Lywydd. Can I commend Suzy Davies for her initiative, and I wholeheartedly support the intention of getting cardiopulmonary resuscitation on the school curriculum and to be more widely acknowledged and trained for the general population. Also, we need defibrillators everywhere and people confident and not afraid to use them. Because that’s what I find, as a general practitioner—I’ve been unfortunate enough to do CPR on a number of occasions over the years, occasionally successfully, most often not successfully, and, with the use of defibrillators, what you find is that lots of people in the out-of-hospital situation are afraid to use a defibrillator. Get away from being afraid: with modern defibrillators, you cannot do any damage. Somebody who’s collapsed in cardiac arrest in front of you has basically died—you can only do good, even if the success rate is only eight per cent. That’s eight per cent of people who would have just died. So, my message is: get with it, people, don’t be afraid and you can’t do any damage; you can only transform a life. Diolch yn fawr.