5. 4. Debate on Members' Legislative Proposals

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:51 pm on 8 February 2017.

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Photo of Rhun ap Iorwerth Rhun ap Iorwerth Plaid Cymru 2:51, 8 February 2017

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In very few words I will also say that I support this proposal. We’ve already heard about the importance of first aid in emergency situations. We know how important it is that equipment such as defibrillators and first aid kits are available.

The recent survey by St John—and we’ve heard reference to this already—tells a very clear story, in that 69 per cent of schoolchildren say that they wouldn’t know how to treat a member of the family or a friend of theirs if they found themselves in a situation where that was necessary; 72 per cent of people say that they would wish to have those skills; and 83 per cent say that they would be far more confident in trying to save a life or in caring for an individual if they had been given that education.

If I could just turn to some comments made by the Welsh Government in response to the BBC, saying that pupils do learn about emergency care techniques already as part of personal and social education. Now, those comments suggest to me that there is a deal of difference between what the Government believes is happening and what’s really happening in our schools. Research demonstrates that there is dissatisfaction in terms of what is provided at present, and in addition to the fact that the pupils themselves say that they don’t have the necessary skills and that they would like to learn the skills, teachers, too, according to research and surveys, say that they lack confidence in terms of the skills that they are expected to pass on to their pupils.

But I will conclude with this question, which I would ask of any Minister listening and any official, too: if you were going for a walk one day and suffered cardiac arrest, and the only person nearby is a 15-year-old, let’s say, would you prefer for that 15-year-old to have gone through an inadequate system of learning certain skills as part of personal and social education, or would you prefer for that 15-year-old to have gone through an education system that would have taught him or her the correct skills, with that provision based in legislation? I know what my response would be, and that’s why I support this legislative proposal.