Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:07 pm on 15 February 2017.
Can I congratulate my Chairman on her statement and, indeed, more widely on the high seriousness, humour and feather-light touch of chairmanship that she brings to us all? A very model Chairman of a committee, if I may say. I realise that giving compliments in the Chamber in the presence of her party leader may lead to some internal problems in Plaid Cymru for her. I certainly hope not. But my compliment is very genuinely meant.
I just want to refer to what the report says about S4C. In particular, in paragraph 37, we refer to the fact that the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport in the UK Government has a statutory duty to ensure that S4C has sufficient funding to fulfil its remit as a public service broadcaster. In view of the cuts that were referred to in the statement and what the report also says about the way in which S4C has had to cut back on its programming, in particular, investment in children’s programmes and a lack of original drama for several months a year, I wonder whether, in fact, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport is in breach of statutory duty in this case. I certainly agree with the report saying that it would be quite wrong for any further cuts to S4C’s budget to occur whilst the future is under review. S4C is a very lean organisation. They’ve cut their staffing from 220 to less than 130; their internal overheads are only around 4 per cent compared with an average of about 11 per cent or 12 per cent in the public sector. So, I think S4C, actually, is a very, very considerable success story on very meagre resources. So, the question that I have for the Chairman is whether we have an even stronger case in law than in morality to demand greater funding for S4C, given the importance that this must play in achieving the Government’s objective of 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050 and our ultimate aspiration of having a wholly bilingual nation.