Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:42 pm on 15 March 2017.
UKIP has no difficulty at all in supporting this motion today. The best that can be said of the Labour Government in Cardiff is that its problems are serious but not terminal, which is the opposite to the position of the Labour Party in Westminster, whose problems are terminal but not serious. Fortunately, we haven’t got—[Interruption.] Fortunately, we haven’t got Jeremy Corbyn as the First Minister in Wales to impose upon us the economic policies that have created such a massive success in Venezuela and Cuba, the other countries in the world that he venerates. That’s not to say that we approve of everything that the Conservative Government at Westminster does as well, and we’ve seen in the course of the last week how one car-crash mistake has now been reversed, and the famous white van man has managed to change the Chancellor’s mind and turn him into white flag man, and a very good thing, too.
But I must say I was rather taken aback by Simon Thomas’s speech about what it means to be an opposition party in this place, because he referred to the right of the Labour Party to continue to be the Government of this country as though they’d actually won the election last May. The truth of the matter is not only did they not win a majority of the seats, they only got 33 per cent of the vote. I don’t think that that is a resounding qualification for the leadership of this country, and after 18 years I would have thought that the opposition would have had more ambition than to be Carwyn Jones’s pit prop to keep up his tottering administration. Unfortunately, Plaid Cymru is a bogus opposition, because we know that at every opportunity when there is, effectively, a vote of confidence—and we saw it the other day on the supplementary budget—they won’t actually press home the advantage in votes that we have collectively as opposition parties. They keep this tottering Government in place, and so they can’t shuffle off the failures of the Labour Government entirely upon the Labour Party, because they are actually the Labour Party’s accomplices in all of this. And over the last 18 years, occasionally, they’ve actually been formal accomplices. Now they’re the informal ones but, nevertheless, without them, the Labour Party would not now be the Government of Wales. And in the course of the last 18 years, as Andrew R.T. Davies pointed out in his opening speech, Wales has become the poorest region, virtually, in western Europe. We’ve seen us actually going backwards in 18—. [Interruption.] Oh, go on.