It’s very important, I think—all of us who believe in the integrity of the United Kingdom should remain united on this point that, actually, Wales would be vastly poorer if it left the United Kingdom, because there is no way that any cut in any budget by a UK department that would be subsequently devolved to Wales could possibly be compensated for in any other way. Therefore, because public expenditure is now nearly 60 per cent of the Welsh GDP, there would be a massive hit for all poor and vulnerable people, and all those who rely upon the national health service and other social services for their health and well-being.