Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:45 pm on 22 March 2017.
We don’t know much of the detail as yet. I’ve been in contact with councillors from my party in Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council, and they’ve told me that it was up to councils and/or the Welsh Government to put forward criteria to call on the Ministry of Justice to apply for those positions. So, I want to understand whether Neath Port Talbot council or you as Welsh Government have actually given them criteria to say that the land in Baglan is okay for them to use, and that you’ve given them that level of permission, so to speak, so that you have indicated that there is a way forward for Neath Port Talbot. I’ve been told that it was a voluntary process and that there was no need for either the council or Welsh Government to put forward an application in that regard.
Is this prison going to facilitate the closure of Swansea and Cardiff prisons? Even if this is the case, why a superprison? Figures from the Wales Governance Centre, as we’ve heard, show that if this prison is built, it would leave Wales with 2,400 surplus places and 600 if Cardiff were to close. Is the UK Government turning Wales into a penal colony while they ship our own prisoners, including women, elsewhere? What are you doing in discussions with the UK Government to repatriate the over 50 per cent of the male population of Welsh prisoners who are not currently situated here in Wales to bring them back, so that their families can support them here in this country?
My final point is that I think the community, so far, has been disrespected by the UK Government. We’ve got a new superschool in Baglan, a new Welsh language school set to be built there, traffic problems are in abundance in that area, and local people need to be part of this conversation, and not be told what is coming to their community by the UK Government.