Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:37 pm on 22 March 2017.
Thank you. I speak as a former fisheries Minister, and I share some of the frustrations. But could I point out to her that before 2010, we were starting to move towards regional seas management, for example in the North sea, and the cod population there, after using the science, is now actually starting to recover? But could I urge her to be chastened against suggesting that we should go back to the days of gunboat diplomacy in the North sea—