Referring to the answer of the First Minister yesterday, Steffan Lewis asked specifically, as I have done today, about mother and baby unit referrals. We have no mother and baby unit in Wales. Community services, they only came in three years after the closures, but, of course, we appreciate that they’re needed. But, in instances of post-partum psychosis, for example, we need in-patient mother and baby facilities. That is what the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence guidelines say. The service standards quoted by the Royal College of Psychiatrists don’t even refer to critical mass figures; they merely say that services should be planned on a regional basis, that people should have equity of access wherever they live. They speak of using staff to work in the community when in-patient occupancy levels are low. They certainly don’t advocate closing units.

The royal college tells us that we can expect 140 women a year in Wales to require admission to a mother and baby unit—more than enough to make a unit viable. Now, there must be, in that context, a case for reconsidering your position on whether Wales should have a specialist mother and baby unit. And, indeed, going beyond the situation in the south of Wales, the RCP figures point to the need not just to reopen that centre, but for a new centre in the north too, if it’s demand we’re looking for.